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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-03-09, 02:23:23
anonymous from Italy  
2009-03-09, 02:26:23
anonymous from Italy  

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2009-03-09, 05:15:29
anonymous from Poland  
hello


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2009-03-09, 08:39:46
anonymous from Italy  

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2009-03-09, 10:37:58
anonymous from Mexico  
this is my scammer she is cute and nice,is a pity there are alot os girls or guys how make this, is a dirty business

Hello my dear xxxx.

How are you? Forgive, that I so for a long time did not answer your letter. At me was has put much. Today most Solar morning for the last some days. I have decided to become today on earlier and to go to the Internet of cafe, to write to you the letter. I hope, that you do not hold on me angrily. In mine the order of 10 minutes and I would like to tell to you, that I feel, how I concern to our correspondence. I really missed all this time under your letters and a photo.
What new in your life??? I hope, that at you all is fine. My dear, I very strongly hope that our correspondence will have really happy end. I think, what you know, what this such???? How your native and close??? Whether all is good???
You have found out be relative Western Union? I went to bank and to me have told, that you will require the information sending money to me.
Russia, the city of Kazan, for name Yulia Asakasinskaya.
You know, I so have not enough time and I should finish the letter, as between the Internet of cafe and work the big distance. I on these words shall finish and wait for your answer. I hope, what you will answer in Fast to time??? bye, bye. Yulia

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2009-03-09, 10:56:11
anonymous from Mexico  
this my other scammer from England her name is KATE THOMPSON beware

Honey

I've told you several times that i can only pay you back when am able to return to the UK. i cant from here.. doesnt look like i'll leave here anytime soon.. i have to pay all that i owe. believe me. just help me with any amount you have, i want to leave here and pay you.. you still have the check with yu right? as soon as i get to UK, i'll find out what happen and effect the payment ok.. kisses all over

i still care for you

Kate



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2009-03-09, 17:06:49
anonymous  
anyone how nows this women vera@intermbox.ru


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2009-03-09, 18:49:58
OJAS from United States  
2009-03-10, 14:09:11   (updated: 2009-03-10, 14:23:49)
Steve_dux from Australia  
@ anonymous from Peru 2009-03-07, 15:35:04 Page 259

See the links above the photo you posted. Does she seem to-good-to-be-true. Ask yourself
if one can fall in love with a few letters and photo's. I think not!
You could try posting more information. Like the email header! To show full headers go here:
http://www.spamcop..._headers/

2009-03-11, 10:21:21
OJAS from United States  
Wanwan,
Use http://translate.google.com/
But you will have to do once from French to Japanese, again from Russian to Japanese. Or, you can first translate French to Russian, then Copy / Paste the translated text for Russian to Japanese. Try some experiments. Scammers as you know, use translators most of the time.
2009-03-11, 11:12:07
OJAS from United States  
Hi, genkides ...
A friendly suggestion ...
Try to hide personal information like name http://www.delphifa..=9#134255
If you wonder about guys like Dirk, they know what they are doing, they have been in this business long enough!

See you. (mata-ne?)
:-)
2009-03-12, 07:39:43
anonymous from United States  
I was being scamed by OLGA who is not one i have seen on any scam pages. her email is mitolnap@yahoo.com it is sad that it took her almost 3 weeks to ask for money beware she is good!!!!! this is her picture she uses.


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2009-03-12, 07:42:18
anonymous from United States  
I was being scamed by OLGA who is not one i have seen on any scam pages. her email is mitolnap@yahoo.com it is sad that it took her almost 3 weeks to ask for money beware she is good!!!!! this is her picture she uses.


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2009-03-12, 08:29:21
Steve_dux from Australia  
@ wanwan

I did French to Russian, then Russian to English. It's not exactly what I'd hoped but the better of 2 attempts.

Here's the translation. Using Google here http://translate.go..=bg&tl=en

Hello my new friend.
I am very glad that you êtes become intyressys me.
Try,
You n'ytiez not dysappointys at me, and taught in degry
as far as possible with regard to me.
But I would like you ytudier better.
I ask that you ycriviez about you directly to the detail.
You see, the 'first point' allows you to see just who yvident.
And when you ytudiez people, the best assessment of lines of character,
of view may change, and the Cardinal.
While I give you a little in regard to me directly.
As you know my name - Julia.
My daughter is in a normal Russian ryality not distinguishing friend.
Dycrire Probably, I would be easier for me
if I had not done so for Première times.
Forgive me if I do a lot of mistakes in the letter,
I do not know very well the language and Française,
If something at home he would not be clear that you ask me again.
Although the time you arrive to continue the story of his même.
My âge années 29, Height: 173 Weight: 55. Cg
I am not married and never consyquent,
I, unfortunately, no children, no.
My home will have children. I do not know when même,
I would like to have children in this n'ytait not dyfini.
I have no bad habits,
I do not smoke and I do not use alcohol,
if only in small quantity on congy.
Because of alcohol I drink only red wine. Of the food I pryfire kitchen Russian.
I want to find a person who wants and respects me.
I think that good relations between people and
Women should be being built on trust and respect each other and.
I think we need ytudier each other better than our relationship ytaient stronger.
If you call me plaot also in respect to you directly.
I am not one of correspondence.
Man I am looking for to start spéciale my best friend,
dyvelopper true love and marry.
If you speak to me, to distract attention
plaot if you do not lose time in vain.
I want you to being with you sincire ytiez also sincires with me!
By character I am a happy person
trying to enjoy every moment in my life, and
overcome with a smile difficultys all my lonely life.
At leisure I go to the cinema and music ycouter different directions on my mood.
If you like being made to rest?
I also pryparer many different furnace pvtys good for tea.
Usually, I apply a little imagination in the preparation of food.
A ytablir I wish you a few questions.
Dycidy why you will find in your friend straight in the Internet?
How long you are looking for love on the Internet?
You correspond with other girls from Russia?

At the same time, I finished the letter, and I expect much response.

Juli
2009-03-13, 13:05:43
OJAS from United States  
Ohio, Wanwan, I have seen scammers use this pic before http://www.delphifa..60#135411
And http://www.delphifa..261#135417 says
''watashiwa anatawo aisuru! anatawo watashiwa aisu matsu-ka?''

My spelling is horrible, but I think you understand what the scammer likes to say! ;)
.. See you ...
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