Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-12-09, 08:56:06
I am not WTC from Japan  
http://www.club10.com/
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RL72197499 - mind2mind
Age: 26
D/Birth: 08/09/1983
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Weight:
Country: United States
City: houston
Religion: Orthodox Christian
Education:
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2009-12-09, 08:58:30
I am not WTC in USA from Japan  
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RL72192505 - lovespice091
Age: 29
D/Birth: 02/11/1980
Height: 5 ft 6 in
Weight: 113 lbs
Country: United States
City: pensylvannia
Religion: Catholic
Education: College
Profession: health care
Children: No Children
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Self-Description:
I am a lady,down to earth with a wonderful sense of humor. I love to laugh and smile as much as possible, and I love to give to other(s) as well. I am a hopeless romantic who wishes to find destiny in a partner who is out to have his heart filled, his mind blown, his spirit renewed, his body explored and his soul warmed by the rays of SUNSHINE! I make every effort to KEEP IT REAL and to be HONEST with everything I do. I am someone that keeps an open mind and have no inhibitions when it comes to happiness. Distance
Interests/Hobbies:
reading, music, movies





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2009-12-10, 01:45:25   (updated: 2009-12-10, 01:46:24)
RealMadrid from Spain  
@wanwan
Marina seems to have given up on the game having exposed her here and and the blog
No fourth letter

Has been a lot of visits from Japan yesterday (presumably not you) so decided to twitter th
昨日の日本訪問ウクライナ語の出会い系ササイトの露出に興味が。 訪問すべき http://bit.ly/80PN2a 訪問すべき http://bit.ly/7lbWwi

Hope the Google Japanese translation get the message across

Saludos
2009-12-10, 03:08:45
ww from Japan  
@R/Madrid !!!
Thank you for your supporting Japanese.
I appreciate your goodwill to Japanese.
I also have my own blog for Japanese.
But they don't visit my blog ,LOL !
Just now I visited your own blog .
It is good translation from Spanish to Japanese.
Again special thanks to you.
When Japanese victims visit you,
please support them.

And you added Russian scammer Sveta to your blog.
Thank you so much for your efforts.


On Marina,,,,,LOL !
It is your victory !
I guess your Marina were watching your blog & this Delphi.
Then she was upset to know we uploaded her infos on internet.
You already know ,our poor scammer Sveta now visits Delphi very often
and tries countering us ,tries posting her non-sense messages.
Because she is in panic to know we are starting to post her infos on Delphi.
Sveta is scared to see her infos in Delphi.
Marina also is scared to see her infos in your own blog,Delphi.
I am convinced our actions can bother them,their crimes.
I appreciate your great jobs .

Mata-ne !
My best friend !
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer svetlana belonosova



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2009-12-10, 06:03:51
Rusty from Australia  
The last photo looks like my Ex...sorry guys could not resist it...lol
Rusty
2009-12-10, 07:32:40
anonymous from Spain  
scammers part you from your money - we must part them from their freedom

Thursday, December 10, 2009
4th letter from Marina - 4e lettre de Marina malgré dis pas intéressés
Subject Salut!!!
De: Marina
Para: xxxxxxxxx

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Bonjour mon ami xxxx!!!
Je suis heureux que j'ai recu votre lettre.
J'aime, quand les gens sont sinceres chez moi.
Je deteste le mensonge. Et je pense que les gens ne peuvent pas faire le bonheur sur le mensonge.
Je pense que vous pensez ainsi aussi. Je n'aime pas, quand dans ma maison - le desordre.
Aussi je n'aime pas les gens paresseux. Je suis ne dans le pays
Et quand je suis arrive a la ville, je ne rester pas plus paresseux.
Bien que dans la ville non que dans la ville et le travail sur la maison soit plus petit.
Mais je trouve toujours que faire (effacez, preparez …).
Il est tres agreable, quand mes amis viennent chez moi et le sentiment independamment confortable.
En Russie les gens parlent : 'si dans votre maison tout bien les tout il est bon dans votre ame'.
Je pense que l'essentiel dans la personne - la beaute de l'ame, la condition privee.
Si vousaimez, et vous etes aimes ce bonheur.
Mais non tout le jour est emprunte avec le travail,
J'ai toujours le temps pour avoir le repos, lire un certain livre.
Je lisais le roman de l'amour maintenant. J'aime lire les romans.
Quand je lisais, je suis charge au complot.
Parfois je crie parfois, je rirai avec les heros.
Que vous lisez maintenant ?

J'attends votre reponse.


Ta Marina beautiful5babym@ymail.com

Subject Salut!!!
De: Marina
Para: xxxxxxxxx


Hello my friend xxxx!
I am happy that I received your letter.
I love when people are sincere with me.
I hate lying. And I think people can not make happiness on the lie.
I think you think so too. I do not like when in my house - the disorder.
So I do not like lazy people. I am not in the country
And when I come to the city, I do not stay lazier.
While in the city not only in the city and work on the house is smaller.
But I always do that (delete, prepare ...).
It is very pleasant when my friends come home and feel comfortable independently.
In Russia people say: 'if in your house all the good it all is good in your soul.'
I think the key in person - the beauty of the soul, the condition private.
If vousaimez, and you are happy like this.
But not the whole day is borrowed with work
I always have time to rest, read a book.
I read the novel of love now. I like reading novels.
When I read, I am dependent on plot.
Sometimes I cry sometimes I laugh with the heroes.
What you are reading now?

I await your response.
Posted by John 'Juan' at 12:45 AM
Labels: From Russian with LOVE, Marina S


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2009-12-10, 07:57:55
RealMadrid from Spain  
@wanwan

I spoke to soon for today Marina had written her 4th letter to me despite me telling her that I had been scammed by a Ukraine agency and really did not want to write to anymore females online (well in her/his case a gay) Nice photos 'You can sit on my knee Marina instead of those hard benches'

Also published here http://bit.ly/784FgV

The good news my credit card company have agreed to repay all my expenses to ualadys.com and uadreams.com. They say men must report fraud to the credit card companies and then they will take us seriously and remove the VISA/Mastercard logos from those sites

I am glad that the Japanese translation was OK as despite being repaid my fight against online fraud will not cease - All nations will be supported by me and I have to post an appropriate one for Norwegians as I noticed that he visited quite a few of my blog pages this morning

Saludos


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2009-12-10, 08:02:35
RealMadrid from Spain  
@Все русские и украинские дамы


Русский дамы, если вы не писали письма на этот сайт и ваша фотография была использована без вашего разрешения, пожалуйста сообщите об этом в местную полицию и присоединиться к нам в деле предотвращения мошеннического письма
2009-12-10, 10:47:52
RealMadrid from Spain  
@wanwan

Strange someone in UK IP 91.214.32.11 using Ukraine Google http://bit.ly/4tVwiy then click on http://bit.ly/7irdWu

Any thoughts on this

Saludos
2009-12-10, 14:19:45   (updated: 2009-12-10, 14:32:40)
[hidden] from Sweden  
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Hi, I have something i need some help to solve, i have been talking to a real woman from Ghana, she send me her passport and i have got it confirmed as a true passport bye the danish embassy in Accra. And also have seen her on webcam for a very long time so i now she´s the real thing. But she have done the same thing scammers do asking for money all the time and i have been stupid and send it cause i thought she was true when showing her self, some weeks ago i did get feed up with all the asking off money all the time and said NO, no more!!!!! Then she told me am bad man and she wants to end everything even when we already apply for visit visa to my country witch she got me to pay for 3 times.and soon we would have got the answer if its been aproved or not, i wanted to ask for advice, should i put her info on this site as a scammer or should i just move on and forgett about it.i don´t want anyone else to get hurt by this person.... I have also give some money to her brother for education costs and also to her mother witch she told me is normal in Ghana for boyfriends to do.....plz try and give me some advice of what to do??
2009-12-10, 15:39:29
ABBA from Sweden  
The advice I am giving you - DONT GIVE MORE MONEY TO HER! Inga pengar alltså!

Det är bara början. Skulle hon mot förmodan komma till Sverige, behöver du föda upp hela hennes släkt livet ut. According to tradition, hmmmmmm.

Men sannolikheten är stor att hon är en SCAMMER. Genom att visa sig i webcam kan hon alltid appelera om en riktig kärlekshistoria. SWT ÄR VAD JAG TROR PÅ. Lycka till!
2009-12-10, 16:09:59
Miss Marple from Sweden  
2009-12-10, 14:19:45
(updated: 2009-12-10, 14:32:40)
hidden] from Sweden


Hej!

I have read youre posting and im really sorry that this terribble

Thing has happend to you.My experiences is that is rare, that scams is

made under theire real name also.Wich its seems to be in youre case.

but it happens that we are getting these kind of repports also.

Of course you can repport this scam to this site,no problem at all.

In this case it is important that you make an repport to the Police in Sweden

and also to Ghana.Please also contact the embassy in Ghana also.I will put her

an link for you if you have not that yet.This is important that these sort of

crimes is repported to scamming sites,because she can scam others also now.

And to reduce her scams it is the best to make an repport of her.

When you make postings here ,make sure that no personal information

of yours dont be published.Im really sorry for this.And please also stop all contact

with her , scammers are very terminated to scam people so much as they can.

So if she contacts you again just ignore,and block that woman totally from contacting

you in every way.Because scammers never give up!!!

Here is also many great contributors that will help and support you in this.

So you are welcome to make an repport of this scammer.Please send copys of

passport,moneytransfers,any important documents.If you have an header from email

so we can trace the IP .And adresses and telephonenumbers.

And I also talk Swedish if you have the need in that.

If you have any questions ore thoughts,please ask!!


Thank you!


http://www.swedenab..2650.aspx

http://www.ghanapol../main.htm

Regards //Miss Marple//


2009-12-10, 20:31:51
Agent 86 from Salem, United States  
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2009-12-10, 14:19:45 (updated: 2009-12-10, 14:32:40)
[hidden] from Sweden

I just read Your Posting and I ask that You stop all contact with this
Woman from Ghana now.

You are most definitely being scammed.

Even with a Passport and Web Cam appearance all of it is either stolen
or faked.

That may seem hard to believe but it is True.

Right now You need to stop sending money to anyone You never met
Face to Face not even a relative of Yours unless they prove it is them
who contacted You and asked for money.

No matter who You ever talk to they must pay their own way to come to
You NO EXCEPTIONS.

If anyone ever asks for money from You on the Internet its a scammer.

These are simple things to do but You must never give in to Your
Feelings that Your helping someone because scammers always manipulate
their victims feelings.

If You go to her instead of her coming to You.
You may be kidnapped beaten and robbed hat has happened to a guy
who went to Ghana.

I know You will not believe Me but the Truth is You was scammed by a man
and not a Woman at all.
Nearly 100% of all scams are done by Men.
Any time the scammer spoke to You it was His Girlfriend or Relative Helping Him.

The ability to fake a Web Cam appearance is well established.
A Stolen Passport was most likely used.

Please get off the Internet and learn all You can about scams and scammers.
You are not through being scammed when You end it with this scammer.

The scammer has Your information now and will try to scam You again.
It may be by contacting You using another e mail address as scammers
have many. They have many fake names and stolen photo's and
many fake stories already made up to use.

Several things You must know now.

Never Tell the Scammer about this site NEVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never Confront the Scammer with the Truth He already has many lies
to tell You to convince You that He is real and can be Trusted.

Never Post any of Your Personal information on this site.
Scammers watch this site constantly.

Please believe Me when I say that if You are ever contacted by anyone
at all from West Africa, Ghana, Nigeria, Benin Republic, Dakar Senegal,
Gold Coast, Ivory Coast, Any Refugee Camp, All of West Africa.
It is 100% scammers NO EXCEPTIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It makes no difference who they say they are or where they are from.
It makes no difference if They Are a Woman or Man, Black or White.
It makes no difference if they show ID or appear on a Web Cam.
It is all scammers.

The Authority's of Ghana also cannot be trusted.
There are many fake Police and others who claim to be able to
help You get Your money back.
If anyone asks for money to help You its another scammer.
Be very careful who You talk to.
Ask questions here and You will be helped.

I am sorry You were scammed and will try to Help You.
Listen to Miss Marple and ABBA they are well known contributors.

Here's some links to check out that may Help You understand
what Truly is going on.

Here is Article from the LA Times read it.
http://www.latimes...315.story

Here is a link to the song mentioned in the Above Article.
http://www.youtube...ure=email

Ghana pedia Link
Ghana Scammers site
http://www.ghana-pe..Itemid=47

Also go to www.419eater.com There You will see what the real scammers
look like.

I Hope You stay Safe from now on and I am sorry You learned about scams
the hard way.

Kind Regards Agent 86 Maxwell Smart \\'^o^'// <><
2009-12-10, 21:51:37
OJAS from United States  
Hej Sverige, please listen to ABBA, Miss Marple and A86. They all have good points, and have expertise on mugu.

Even if you decide to visit a real girl in a strange country, do your homework, and heed A86 warning http://news.com.au/..2,00.html

It doesn't matter if you are being scammed by a girl using her OWN identity (very rare) or MEN sending stolen pictures (most common) just remember this - Asking money from strangers is a scam, see this Boris warning link http://ladies-russi..t/Scam.php
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